Wafa Sultan: Islam Is Incompatible with Western Law

Posted on December 29, 2009 | 25 Comments

Complete video at: fora.tv Wafa Sultan, author of A God Who Hates, argues that with respect to the United States Constitution, Islam doesn’t qualify as a religion. She explains that Islam is both a religion and a state, which is incompatible with a non-Muslim government. “It is impossible for someone to be a true Muslim and a true American at the same time,” she argues. —– Is there a robust zone of Muslim belief that lives up to the term “moderate?” Or is “moderate Islam” more of a …

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  1. felixthehuman says:

    What are you talking about? If there is no SD, wasting time, effort and resources propitiating one is a disadvantage, not an advantage, and if there are several, that’s neo-paganism (of a sort) you’re espousing, not atheism.

  2. Rationalist411 says:

    Carl Sagan is a life long hero of mine and I know almost as much as anyone can without ever meeting him. Carl Sagan has said that we must realize that we are not American or Canadian, etc., but Earthlings/Earthicans/whatever. He also said how would we explain what we do on Earth to an Alien observer (He never meant they are watching us). Not to mention the fact he tries to dismiss UFO theory which yours is one of them.

  3. Sardonac says:

    @kadafia The lecture is linked to. Watch it, agree or disagree. The videos are meant to stimulate, not convert.

  4. MrMP81 says:

    MrMoc, I don’t believe you are an “Ex” muslim to begin with.

    It’s a real threat to human dignity? Ah yes, just look at all the whores of Saudi Arabia, the prostitutes, the underage children having kids out of wedlock, the kids cursing out their parents, the divorce rate, the alcoholics, the drug addicts, the broken families.

    You’re right MrMoc, we must stop Islam!……..\o/

  5. arcanist9 says:

    @killerkitty777 — excellent points. Not only is Sharia man-made, but all religion, along with all other institutions in human society. We must see our own hands at work in the world around us.

  6. arcanist9 says:

    The world would be much better off without the Abrahamic religions — they have been the source behind centuries of war, violence, oppression, and psychological tyranny. Why can’t monotheists just go one step further and consider that God/Jehovah/Allah also doesn’t exist along with all the other gods humankind has created throughout history?

  7. killerkitty777 says:

    you say that, but what is a true muslim? do you just assume they r comanded to wear burkas and shit on their women? if so, ur wrong. sharia law is not whats in quran. divorce is 2 way, but sharia says only men have control. sharia is not faithful to the quran

    you cannot be the one to judge whats a real muslim. technically, iranians and saudis are breaking Quran law
    sharia is man made, which is why my friend does not recognize it…it isnt of the book , it is of patriarchical minds

  8. mattghtpa says:

    A typical misconception about Carl Sagan, I suggest you watch Cosmos and really pay close attention to his “imaginary” journey scenes.

    Preposterous is this inability to accept what is almost a certain statistically possibility.

    Humans suffer from crippling self inflated egos, but think small, and place their importance much too high.

    A hold over mentality from theism, that seems to still infect academia.

    “watching us and judging our worthiness”, is a logical step.

  9. killerkitty777 says:

    extremists are not true muslims if you actually read the quran…peopel listen too much to the media and dont do the research themselves.

    i have not been lazy, i seek truth, and in all honesty, the quran is fair enough and it has not been rewritten and altered over the years to serve the purposes of man. i cannot say the same for the bible/testament/talmud. we , i should hope, have realized that while the bible itself has been modified, the quran has nopt, but leaders still twist its meaning

  10. killerkitty777 says:

    Islam is old. children of today want it updated. Men married many women because there were not enough men . today is redundant.

    burka wearing is not muslim LITERALLY, thisis mans ideal,
    you cant consider extremists ‘true’ and my friend ‘not’. ive read quran and it reads like the bible. I was roman catholic with jewish old testament. its not better nor different

    vengeful gods. the story of Job..god punish a faithful man to ‘prove’ Job’s faith to Lucifer. Stoning people.c’mon, no ones better

  11. kadafia says:

    What a terrible video, this lady is making it seem like there is some sort of agenda…. how ever im assuming not the full video was posted. but this video does seem very one sided.. im going to un suscribe. fora. you sadden me

  12. Theprinceofponeage says:

    Yeah, i guess we do.

  13. killerkitty777 says:

    they come here to get away from it all. I have spoken to too many immigrants to say otherwise. they love theri land, but they feel hopeless with all this USraeli propaganda. They go home to visit and they dont want to go back to visit again. i dont blame them, it is depressingto constantly be regarded as a bad peopel when they are loving, they laugh m they cry they work and love.

    Hollywood is a monster propaganda machine demonizing them.

  14. garvess says:

    You existentialists sure love your absurdity.

  15. killerkitty777 says:

    true,BUT when a muslim whos well read in history, theology, geography & sciences (not a villager who know nothing & easily brainwashed ) does not recognize Sharia as islam,yes, its confusing
    Sharia: women cant divorce unless hubby& sheikh agree

    this is NOT reality of Islamic daily life in most countries, women divorce if they wan.
    Sharias not literally Islam. Quran doesnt take away womens rights. Sharia=extremist. like calling talmud a testament. It is not, it was written by rabbis

  16. Theprinceofponeage says:

    And I am an Absurdest Existentialist Objectivist

  17. Theprinceofponeage says:

    You think that Carl Sagan held the view that their is an alien race that is watching us. And is dissatisfied with the amount of people who believe in bronze age superstitions, so they choose not to reveal themselves? He certainly did no such thing. He believed that there are alien races out there, as do I. But to think they are on our doorstep, but choosing not to reveal themselves is, let me be frank, preposterous.

  18. the2012report says:

    Pious? I was trying to be funny. The key point in this regard is that they are “savages,” as you put it. It’s not that the religious beliefs are savage so much that they are savagely rooted. They savagely believe THEIR fairy tale. You will not weaken THEIR resolve with your pious atheistic pronouncements. You may damn all religions, but your damning will only strike at Christianity.

  19. mattghtpa says:

    Granted, it’s a personal theory and an opinion, but I am in good company of those that share this view, Carl Sagan, Michio Kaku etc, and considerably more optimistic than your opinion, a geocentric nihilism.

  20. killerkitty777 says:

    that is an assumption on your part. he is Muslim, he is well educated. his family is renowned in his country and neighborhoods are named after their family.
    \his grandfather , up until the day before his death, would walk the streets visiting business seeking charitable donatiion for orphanages….your ignorance is not my problem.

    You need to learn more

  21. zoticus1 says:

    allowing those who have been transgressed upon does you no benefit to this argument. Sensationalism is parallel to the silliness of religion, thus you are being pious. Can you discern the damage Christianity has done to US foreign policy?Killing in the name of..Because they are savages with different beliefs is the oldest trick of government to justify military actions. If you want to be taken seriously you need to understand the debilitation that is attached to ALL religions!

  22. zoticus1 says:

    Religion is more of a societal norm than an actual necessity for peace of mind; you well know breaking from the religion can be debilitating to your social standing in the community and especially the family unit. Almost all the Muslims I know are moderate at best and this is because they would be practically disowned. American culture by nature of a different societal norms creates moderate people of those who hold to traditions rooted in square wheel science fortunately; alas there are deniers

  23. Theprinceofponeage says:

    The concept that there are alien races watching us and judging our worthiness to join the galactic community. I think is almost as preposterous as said primitive supernatural beliefs.

  24. the2012report says:

    It is a Greenspanian conundrum that YouTube atheist so consistently take the side of the stronger religion here. Can they be so stupid as to not see what they are doing? They open the doors and usher in the invading hoards when they attack the domestic religion, which is all they are doing when they attack any religion, since the weak domstic “Christians” are the only ones who will listen to them. They are Islam’s voices crying out in the wilderness, making straight the highway of Allah.

  25. zoticus1 says:

    what a pile of shit,
    I will be the first to criticize religion but for this westernized propaganda tool to specify that Islam is different from other religions regarding “compatibility” is stupid at best.Catholicism and Judaism and any monotheistic religion are incompatible to the constitution for sure but “western Life” is nonsense.I personally know many Hippocratic Muslims just as their Christian counterparts.
    A pro western, Syrian turncoat like this should raise red flags for any true thinker

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