Christopher Hitchens destroys another terrorism apologist

Posted on November 30, 2009 | 25 Comments

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Comments (25)

 

  1. fctchk says:

    The real threat is basing policies, doctrines and actions on “holy” faith based dogmatic ideologies e.g. Christianity or Islam or secular faith based dogmatic ideologies e.g. Marxism or Fascism instead of on logic, reason, facts and evidence.

  2. krane121 says:

    Love the manner in which he says “These are not people in despair’…pure high-brow brit in the best sense.

  3. IricForset says:

    Mariliadeverdade, you have to understand this point about atheism. Atheists are against all religion, note that, ALL. Sarah Palin is pro Christianity, anti-islam. By no means whatever are atheists and christian fundies ‘on the same team’ just because you find one thing in common with them. Think about what you say first.

  4. hazydavey says:

    “so if you are running for public office you are supposed to lie and say islam is great?”

    Politicians do what politicians do – It was Geroge W. Bush who declared Islam a religion of peace.

    But the Hitchens point is that while religions may not all be equally dangerous, they all share the same defect and equally false. And once you go down the road of attributing authority to the supernatural, then why not Islam? The Koran is just as likely to be the word of God as any holy book.

  5. kentamitchell says:

    Because Olberman would attack Palin if she said the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

  6. mariliadeverdade says:

    @IricForset
    i don’t particularly like Sarah Palin, and i am not trying to defend her. but pointing a finder at the Christian fundies when atheists like Hitchens are in the same boat makes no sense. so are the atheists and the Christian fundies now playing on the same team? i guess it is like they say, the extremes always resemble each other

  7. kentamitchell says:

    Hear! Hear!

  8. mariliadeverdade says:

    @hazydavey
    - so if you are running for public office you are supposed to lie and say islam is great? like Obama does when he gives speeches in the Middle East
    - if all religions are just as evil as islam then what is the point of listening to Hitchens, isn’t it the same as saying that all religions are equally great? and if all religions are the same (great or evil) then islam is not really a threat, just a radical path to God.

  9. Re5Publica says:

    Yes, but since then an unstable Muslim country has acquired nuclear weapons, and more are seeking them.

    Winston Churchill at the turn of the century said that Islam would conquer the West if it weren’t for the West’s scientific advantage, but that gap is rapidly closing, and I think that’s what’s happening, it’s almost amazing how much of a prophet Churchill was, and that statement was made when he was in his 20s!

  10. hazydavey says:

    That’s certainly true – I don’t think Hitchens would regard the threats posed by different religions to be equally dangerous. Only that the they all suffer from the same defect. But even the threats change. Hitchens has said that if asked which religion was the most dangerous 75 years ago, it would be the Roman Catholic Church for its strong support for fascism and totalitarianism in Europe.

  11. Mike3303 says:

    Hitchens has stated that he thinks Islam is the greatest modern threat among all religions.

  12. Re5Publica says:

    He thinks religion itself is evil, but I don’t think he believes every religion is as much of a threat. Even Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris recognize that Islam is particularly intolerant, or at least that the Muslim community is particularly fanatic.

    Hitchens sends his kids to a Quaker school, somehow I feel he wouldn’t send them to a madrassa.

  13. IricForset says:

    Because Sarah Palin is a christian, and a fundamentalist one at that. Hitchens brands all religion poisonous and evil, although clearly he thinks Islam an abomination, which it is. Everyone would agree with Sarah Palin that Islam is EVIL, but she loses credibility sadly because as luck would have it, she happens to be in the less evil religions. Hitchens is an atheist, it should be expected he calls any religion evil, whilst Palin could be trying to sell her brand, although not necessarily.

  14. hazydavey says:

    “keith olberman made a big deal about how Sarah Palin called Islam an EVIL religion, why doesn’t anyone talk about how Christopher Hitchens thinks the exact same thing!!”

    I can think of 2 very good reasons.

    1. Hitchens thinks that every other religion is just as evil.

    2. Hitchens isn’t running for public office.

  15. seekerofgod7777777 says:

    @mariliadeverdade The example you cite about the odious oberman chiding Sara Palin typifies just how far off true north the cult of atheism has Already damaged the secular mindset.
    They cant even get their priorities straight.
    I had caricatured it as Dawkins with his head on the chopping block, self righteously chiding the muslim axeman as to the folly of religion till his head was (thankfully} hacked off.
    They have demonstrated nothing but capricious self centeredness to this point,

  16. mariliadeverdade says:

    @seekerofgod7777777
    sad to say you are correct, this view of reflecting ALL religions as ridiculous or nonsense has got to stop. i hope it is not too late.
    one thing i noticed recently, keith olberman made a big deal about how Sarah Palin called Islam an EVIL religion, why doesn’t anyone talk about how Christopher Hitchens thinks the exact same thing!!!

  17. seekerofgod7777777 says:

    Although more than likely too late, the voice of intellectual atheism is only now directing its focus at the REAL threat that A (singular) religion poses.
    Too long He and his contemporaries have grouped Christianity as Equally Evil and corrupt as Any religion.
    This kind of Capricious and gratuitous methodology has garnered unto themselves throngs of hopeful atheist imitators, but enabled the murderous muslim to escape reproach with the same retribution as one would penalize a televangelist.

  18. Ellesime89 says:

    I’ve tried posting the article from which this video originates twice now and it hasn’t worked. So, google “Zombietime Christopher Hitchens” and it should be the first result. The video is from a blog called Zombietime and he used to have the entire video up on Youtube before they took it down for supposedly violation copyright rules. The article is very good, and explains a lot about the debate that isn’t revealed in this one, cursory video.

  19. Ellesime89 says:

    King Middle School, Berkeley, May 24, 2007

  20. fr3d420 says:

    shitty audio is shitty.

  21. TimeWarp66 says:

    Exactly

  22. undertehlaw says:

    I’ll resort to profanity and insult the apologist in the most belittling manner possible: that looks like Chris Hedges.

  23. BigCasinoable says:

    I think he’s just lighting up a smoke at the end. Although, I’d like to see the debate in its entirety.

  24. BigCasinoable says:

    Does anyone know where the entire video can be found.

  25. zawam says:

    The audience seems to support Hedges. I think this is why Hitchens appears to storm out at the end.

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